While we were in Italy, a funny exchange took place on my Facebook page. I probably shouldn’t write about this, but it’s just too funny not to share. Besides, I kind of think the lady who has inspired this post asked for it.
A few days ago, I shared an article about Donald Trump’s reaction to Joe Biden’s decision to ask Kamala Harris to be his running mate in his 2020 run for POTUS. I commented that Trump “can’t deal with women who aren’t intimidated or impressed by him. Too bad there is so little impressive about him…”
A former Facebook friend commented that she had been researching Kamala Harris and everything she’d found out about Ms. Harris was “negative”. And I wrote that I would vote for a kumquat over Trump and Pence. Seriously, this should not have been a surprise for her. She met me in person back in 2015 and was a Facebook friend for most of that time. She should have known that I can’t stand Trump and am not afraid to say so… But– evidently, she chose that day to basically call me a hater. When I added that “those fuckers need to go”, she wrote this:
I don’t ever understand all the hate. Where does that come from? And why? I do a lot of research and his administration is even if not better compared to others.
Is it his personality?
So I wrote this…
I despise Donald Trump. He’s a malignant narcissist, and once you have had exposure to that type of person, you know they are beyond redemption. As far as I am concerned, he never should have been allowed to run for his “grab ‘em by the pussy” comment alone. But there’s a long list of shit he’s done from as far back as when I was in high school. People were talking about what a sleazy dirtbag he is even back then.
But even if he hadn’t done bad things, he’s completely incompetent and only cares about himself. As for Pence, I simply despise religious whack a loon politics.
I got eight likes and loves on that comment. I have many intelligent friends who agree with me that Trump’s presidency has been a non-stop disaster. But even if it hadn’t been a disaster, he’s just a flaming asshole who promotes hatred and polarizes people. Even if it was just his personality, I stand by my right not to like him or vote for him. That’s the American way. But ex friend didn’t see it. She wrote this:
I see. Got it. It’s his personality. I understand.
Nope. Clearly you don’t understand, weird ex Facebook friend. But that’s alright. I can’t change what you think or how you feel, and I have better things to do than try. Another friend tried to explain her thoughts and ex friend said the same to her:
got it. It’s his personality.
So I tried again with this. It was my last comment to her on this post:
It’s not just his personality. I could sit here all day and write about why he’s a terrible leader. The fact that he’s a malignant narcissist, though, ought to give you a clue. Malignant narcissists are basically criminals. And Trump has done many criminal things, to include raping his first wife. She now denies it, but it was part of their divorce proceedings. He forced himself on her over painful hair plugs.
And then there’s his close friendship with Jeffrey Epstein and the very credible stories of him raping teenagers. But aside from that, he clearly wants to be a dictator and that is not what America is about. So, as far as I am concerned, he needs to go.
But if you want to believe it’s just because I think he has a shitty personality (and he does), that’s fine with me, too.
She came back with this comment for my friend, who had responded with respect and intelligence.
I’ve been doing the research. I’m not a sheep. I get where you’re coming from. Thank you.
I’m doing tons of research.
I like doing my own research. I’m not easily influenced by others or organizations. But, thank you.
At that point, I had pretty much bowed out of the conversation because, well, I was on vacation. But ex friend continued with a bunch of my friends, all of whom are way smarter and more articulate than she is. One friend left this very reasonable and well-researched comment for ex friend.
In November 2016, less than two weeks after he was elected, Trump settled three different fraud lawsuits related to his Trump University for $25 million.
In December 2019, New York Attorney General Letitia James formally announced, the president was “forced to pay $2 million for misusing charitable funds for his own political gain,” and his Trump Foundation was “shut down for its misconduct.”
In October 2018, it came to public attention that the General Services Administration, which manages real estate for the federal government, had planned to turn the FBI’s headquarters in Washington, D.C. “over to a commercial developer” — until, that is, the president intervened to veto the sale. As a group of Democratic lawmakers pointed out, Trump was “‘dead opposed’ to the government selling the property, which would have allowed commercial developers to compete directly with the Trump Hotel” only a block away.
Trump’s former lawyer and fixer Michael Cohen, who is serving a three-year prison sentence for campaign finance violations, tax fraud, and bank fraud, made illegal hush money payments to two women — Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal — who claimed to have had affairs with Trump. We also know, thanks to federal prosecutors, that Cohen “acted in coordination and at the direction of” the president himself.
On several occasions, he has encouraged his supporters — including members of the armed forces — to attack his political opponents. He’s offered to pay legal fees for people who commit violence against protestors to his cause.
When it comes to violence, he’s used it against peaceful protestors in Lafayette Park – an area that has a long tradition of protests. Half an hour before the curfew during the initial BLM protests, he had protestors cleared using tear gas to allow for a photo op.
As of the end of 2019, Trump had lied a documented 15,000 times since assuming office. And it continues. The first article of impeachment against Nixon accused him of “making or causing to be made false or misleading public statements for the purpose of deceiving the people of the United States.” Trump outstrips Nixon on the lying front by a magnitude.
Trump, as even Fox News host Chris Wallace observed , “is engaged in the most direct, sustained assault on freedom of the press in our history.” The president has asked the FBI to jail reporters who publish leaks, threatened to revoke the broadcast licenses of media organizations that criticize him, and relentlessly attacked and demonized journalists as “scum,” “slime,” “sick people,” “fake news,” and “the enemy of the people.” He has revoked press passes, ended the practice of daily press briefings by his press secretaries opting instead to tweet which allies no follow up questions. He has now made it a habit to walk out of briefings if he doesn’t like the questions.
In the midst of the COVID crisis, he chooses to speak over the best regarded experts in the field of infectious diseases. He has told hospitals to stop sending information to the CDC which has the ability to collect sort and make public information in a number of meaningful way.
Local officials in Puerto Rico blame presidential negligence and incompetence for the deaths of nearly 3,000 people in Puerto Rico, in the wake of Hurricane Maria in 2017. Trump’s response? He claimed that 3,000 Americans didn’t die. He also tried to “illegally withhold” much-needed, congressionally appropriated disaster relief funds. Trump told White House officials “he did not want a single dollar going to Puerto Rico. … Instead, he wanted more of the money to go to Texas and Florida.”
I could go on. These are not personality issue. To a large extent, this is not about his politics with which I have issues. This is about a level of amorality that makes him ineffective and undesirable as a leader and representative of the citizens of the USA.
I will admit to finding his personality an issue. He’s anti-intellectual, racist, misogynistic, dishonest, self-absorbed, and lacking in basic consideration or empathy for others.
Ex Facebook friend seemed a bit agitated by that comment. She wrote this:
And the plot thickens.
And so my reasonable friend who wrote the above post responded again:
I would be interested with all your self-proclaimed research, what have you found to support your comment that “his administration is even better” than that of others? As to “the plot thickens,” not sure what that is supposed to mean or add to the discussion.
Again, a cryptic response from ex Facebook friend:
wow. The judgement. Have an awesome day.
And the plot thickens……even more. Oooooh.
Reasonable friend presses on with this:
As with anyone with whom I gave a discussion, I like for facts and sources. So far, you’re just saying your research points you to a different conclusion than mine. I am looking for any facts you have. I am looking to learn from someone who expressed a different view from my own.
Ex Facebook friend, apparently feeling the heat and getting irritated, writes this:
do your own research. Don’t be a sheep. I’m all about facts and numbers……they so rock!
I can’t school you. Be accountable and responsible for yourself.
I never said anything about different conclusion.
Never stop learning. The Universe conspires and collides.
Different people, different life experiences, different paths.
Too funny. She had no idea who she was fooling with. Reasonable friend wrote:
I did my research and provided facts in response to your question. You have provided no facts and pointed me to no sources.
I do my research. I seriously doubt you do. I have tried to offer an opportunity to engage meaningfully, but you’re just a troll and not worth engagement.
Apparently, she got a bit pissed off or something, because some time later, ex Facebook friend blocked me– even though I had bowed out of the argument hours earlier. But she didn’t block me until she left this beaut of a comment that made me laugh for days.
Look here’s the thing. I have an incredible gift…..I’m clairvoyant, medium, empath, healing witch.
I go on energy and unfortunately……I see your energy. Let’s leave it at that.
People cross paths for a reason…..I see your energy.
That’s it. Baiting me, or trying
I’m connected to mother earth.
Troll. Far from it.
Guard your self. Items are coming your way.
I am only bright light.
See…..I told you …. the plot thickens.
What in the hell? Actually, I knew she was a bit weird. A few years ago, a friend of mine did a huge favor for ex Facebook friend. When I say “huge favor”, I mean HUGE FAVOR. She let ex Facebook friend’s kid live with her for awhile because the youngster had gotten in serious trouble and was kicked out of military housing. While he was a guest in my friend’s house, he caused all kinds of trouble and harassed my friend’s teenaged daughter. Ex Facebook friend didn’t hold her kid responsible. Instead, she was really shitty to my friend. I mean, unbelievably shitty… the road to hell is paved with good intentions, I guess.
I had unfriended her at that point. She added me back some time later. I went along with it because I wasn’t involved in the drama involving her son. But I must say that I wasn’t surprised by her fuckery the other day. It’s not like we hadn’t seen it before… but I was not expecting her to claim she’s a clairvoyant. That shit is out in left field. It’s too funny, and needs to be recorded for posterity. So here I am, recording it for posterity… and still laughing several days later.
My good friend who had been so kind to ex Facebook friend had a good laugh at this exchange too. Now two people have seen ex Facebook friend’s wackorama on social media.
I kind of love it when troublemakers block me on Facebook. It’s like the trash took itself out. Anyway… thanks to ex Facebook friend for the funny tag line about being a clairvoyant sharing the light. I love a good laugh!